Ladies and Gentlemen we are officially back!
In this episode we review, discuss and break down Metro Boomin & Futures' we Don't trust you album as well as SchoolBoy Q's Blue Lips album. We also take some time to talk about the big three beef that Kendrick Lamar has started
Special shouts out to my guest Toro and producer Donald Spongberg
https://www.instagram.com/brucemidnight/
Ladies and Gentlemen we are officially back!
In this episode we review, discuss and break down Metro Boomin & Futures' we Don't trust you album as well as SchoolBoy Q's Blue Lips album. We also take some time to talk about the big three beef that Kendrick Lamar has started
Special shouts out to my guest Toro and producer Donald Spongberg
https://www.instagram.com/brucemidnight/
Yo, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Rap Parlay. It's your boy, bruce, midnight, of course, and today with me I have Toro, who's a first time guest in the show, but a long time rap enthusiast. We recently linked up and we decided let's get him on the show, so welcome, welcome, my guy.
Speaker 2:Thank you, nice to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:For sure. So today we're going to kind of be doing an album review slash artist review. So we're going to be talking about Future and Metro Boomin's we Don't Trust you and Schoolboy Q's Blue Lips. So let's hop into it. Let's start off with the Future and Metro Boomin project. So we Don't Trust you is a collaborative project between two rap giants, metro and the producer Metro Boomin. Rap giants, uh, metro and the producer metro booman, who have worked together on notorious tracks and have developed and cultivate a well-known brand name as a duo. Together I'd almost say they're like probably some of rap's favorite, like batman and robin kind of duo, if you will so this is the first time they work together, but you know, this is another really big track to watch the titans go the distance.
Speaker 1:So this project's really interesting, at least for me, because, like I, I went through it and we're gonna go as we go into it. I'll explain more of my thoughts and how I feel about future and metro boom. And I go through this project and I and I can say I feel like at the end of this, I can say this I feel like future is not a rapper, but he's an artist. Yes, I totally agree with that. I also realize I don't dislike Future anymore. I think I dislike his fans.
Speaker 2:But we'll get into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll get into it, because that's just how I feel. What about you? How do you feel about Metro Boomin and Future?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like on this tape I really felt like Future really hit his stride with the psychedelic rap, kind of melodic, and then obviously Metro Boomin and his beat production is kind of top tier in the industry right now. I really liked his orchestral takes. Yeah, I felt like it was really the musical part was awesome yeah, so we don't trust you.
Speaker 1:Coming in about 17 tracks, uh, we'll kind of dive into them just a little bit, piece by piece. We won't do a whole full death thing for you guys. But, um, so we start off with the first track, just, you know, kind of leading the theme of we don't trust you. That's this future saying in metrobium. We say y'all are the ops, we don't really trust you guys, fuck you guys. And you know it starts off again, like you said he does.
Speaker 1:Future comes in pretty strong with a lot of the melodic, psychedelic kind of raps that he's really kind of developed into. I think metrobium is definitely at his strongest on this project and especially in this first beat. I think he's taking a great charge. I love the orchestral sounds, I love the way a lot of the dreams start, dreams, drums kind of happen with it. And again, the best part about this song, which I really love because it plays into the theme like it literally starts off with, in my opinion it's probably one of the top tier and well-known ad libs, or especially producer ad libs, in the game of if young metro don't trust you, I'm gonna shoot you, and that just that's a good way to start off this project right like I love the way they go about it and it was amazing. Uh, start to the, you know, to the show. So right after that we drive into the next song. So we have a. We got young metro.
Speaker 2:Uh, sorry, with the weekend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah we're talking with the song with the weekend, young metro. I had I kept tripping off the name when I was reading this off the title, but we have, yeah, the next song with uh young metro when we also feature. So this is where we get into a really psychedelic kind of song, and I like the kind of ghostly sound that the weekend brings to this project, because he's definitely just in the background, just more of an echo to futures lines, um, which I really enjoyed, I will say, though a big, even though we're only two songs in uh. Future, I think, definitely does this thing, uh, but you know it's kind of the. I can already tell where this is gonna go, but I'll mention it a little bit later. But you know he does this thing. He's coming in rapping about his normal topics of drugs, money, women, just like you know. Future doing future shit, uh-huh, no for sure, like talk about pills.
Speaker 2:you know future, doing future shit. Uh-huh, no for sure, like talk about pills. You know driving in cars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all that shit. It's just future to the T and Metro Boomin does this thing Like. Again, this track's good, I like it. I like the weekend thing, and you know, this is like not the first time the weekend of Metro Boomin will work together, but maybe with the Weekend in the Future, which is great. What the funny part about it is, though, is that I like some of the references to Evel Knievel and to his label and stuff like that, but what I tell y'all, I think that is, if y'all were going to ask you what's future song really represents him as a rapper, this would be it. If this is the most future ass song. Sorry, I just took a swig of water, I don't know what it is, but okay. So, yeah, great again.
Speaker 1:Like I said, we're not going to jump into. We're going to jump, not jump into every song, but you know some of the bigger tracks, um. So one of the other tracks I want to bring up is type shit, so that we got travis scott and playboy cardi on this, and I feel like future and travis scott work well together. They definitely, again, both carry that psychedelic uh raps, that psychedelic funk rap kind of vibe, the definitely the trippy shit, the drugs like all that. Oh, you know all that shit. Right, we got it. And the braggadociousness, uh, I do like travis scott on here. I'm not a travis scott fan but I do like his vocals and I do like his lyrics on here. I think it fits really well to the track. I think already so far, consistently, metro Boomin is doing really well across the board. I don't really think he's going to be anything to worry about letting you down in this project.
Speaker 1:No never I will say goddamn. The worst Playboy Cardi verse I have ever heard in my life. I wouldn't even know if I called this a verse.
Speaker 2:I could barely tell that it was for for a while. I was like all right, I didn't even know that was him for a while, and then, after replaying a couple times, I'm like okay, well, I guess you were there, you know yeah, yeah it's.
Speaker 1:It's funny because it's just like I and you might disagree with me, toro, I don't apparently, but like I, just I feel. But, um, I feel like future is one of the godfathers of mumble rap and I feel like playboy cardi is like the number one play mumble rap like rapper out there.
Speaker 2:So I feel like this should have worked better yeah, I feel like they should have had a bit more chemistry on it. I guess I don't know have they collabed before this.
Speaker 1:I think this is their first collab and I feel like a lot of it was for hype oh yeah, because Playboy's got his album coming soon and it's like you know.
Speaker 2:He's probably been in the studio a couple times with them.
Speaker 1:This is not a Playboy Cardi episode, but I think Playboy Cardi's very overhyped. That is what I will leave with you guys at that point.
Speaker 2:Um but I'm not a big fan either. But you know, easter on oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Uh, we have the song slimed in, which I know a lot of people enjoy like kind of like a thug featured ish, like more of just like a thug ad-lib on there in the beginning about being slimed in. That was a pretty good song. I really enjoyed that track. Um magic dawn wand, princess, slimed in. That was a pretty good song. I really enjoyed that track. Um magic don juan, princess diana.
Speaker 2:I thought that was pretty fire uh that was one of the most notable tracks. Yeah, those three like I feel like right after the other they kind of kept the tone going as well through the album. Like you know, you're like still got that hype energy future doing his thing throughout those yeah so, yeah, that was, like you know, doing a thing.
Speaker 1:It was great, great time, uh, if, but, like, as we keep to go, we go down.
Speaker 1:The other track I feel like it's really worth mentioning is everyday hustle, uh, featuring rick ross, and I feel like this track was really good in the sense that having rick ross on it forced future to try a little bit harder on the project, because I feel like his lyrics kind of step up here. Uh, because, other than that, like when I say to my other comment earlier about why I don't like his fans and it's not him anymore is because I think the fans have allowed this man to be the most repetitively, consistently boring motherfucker in the game, like I'm talking about. At one point I'm not even gonna hold you I was listening to two songs. It was towards the end of the project and I knew I had to play it back to back. I was like I know these songs are different, but like, to a point, they sound the same right, the difference is the beat like it's the beat is literally metrobium and changing the beat and I'm like I even felt like slightly then.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even that much, but I feel like rick ross forced him to do a little bit better right.
Speaker 2:I think he kind of challenged him. It's like all right, I'm being on a track with one of the raps top rappers I gotta at least like step up my word game a little bit and try, I guess, instead of like that yeah, you know it made a little rap, ask yeah.
Speaker 1:So it definitely made him, you know, push them a little bit more, but doubling back because I definitely want to pick your mind about like the tracks, all the tracks you really liked, the ones you didn't like, and but we got to definitely cover it. So the biggest track that everybody's like, really hyped about this whole project for, is like that, uh, like that, featuring kendrick lamar, and I believe this is the fourth time they work together and the project in this track is so big for a lot of reasons. I know a lot of people love the beat but I'm gonna be honest, I am actually not a fan of the beat. That shit sounds like it's like it should be. It's out of the straight out of the year 2000, like smack dvds to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this early shit, bro, like yeah I could, I could get, I can see that and I fuck with I mean the beat is aggressive. It's aggressive, yeah sure oh, and it's sample.
Speaker 1:I know sampling like so an easy song and sampling like it's inspired by e40 and another song and like I, I get this, I get these elements. I'm just not crazy about it. But let's, let's, let's just go to the k-dot verse. So I thought it was good, I liked it and you know, it's sparking this whole new big beef rap. But I don't think this verse was like oh shit. I think it was just like oh, okay, cool yeah, I like the verse um.
Speaker 2:I think it's a good start. You know we need some kind of you know challenge in rap right now.
Speaker 1:I just feel like people need to start going at each other a little bit more, like kind of having like challenging people to bar, bar up a little bit, um yeah, yeah, I, I would agree, uh, okay, so let me answer this question, because I was talking to somebody else about it recently. So what in? Because not trying to get too much into the beef, just a little bit. But I feel like I definitely agree with you right now, because I feel like we're at a point now where we're not really getting any new talent, nobody. That's really not a lot of new people worth talking about, and I don't know if you feel the same way I know I do agree.
Speaker 2:I feel like right now we're getting a lot of the rappers that you know last 10 years or so have been consistent, so that's kind of who's going to top the charts and things like that, you know. Yeah, that's my thoughts on that. I mean, there's some new people trying to come out, but I feel like it's just really hard to kind of break through.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, no, I mean it is, but I mean it's just about the sound. I would say like jid was definitely one of the more like recently new rappers that I've really enjoyed. There's like kenny mason. There's definitely some out there, but I'm just still not on the caliber to which we have currently um, but, excuse me, besides the beef, so what? Okay, so what on the track? Did you like it like? What did you like? What didn't you like? How did you feel about the project overall? Did you love it? Did you like what didn't you like? How did you feel about the project overall? Did you love it? Did you hate it? What would you rate it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would. A couple of my favorite tracks on here definitely are the opening track we Don't Trust you Set the Tone for the album. I really liked Slimed In. I felt like I loved the Young Thug at the beginning a little bit and then I loved the verses on that, and definitely Cinderella. I just like Travis Scott's voice sometimes on tracks with Metro. I feel like they just collab well as well. Same with Future and then, yeah, overall the beats from the album really stood out to me. I really like Metro's production. I really thought that his you know he did that Red Bull Orchestra performance of a bunch of songs I feel like he took from that. Like you know, I can do this, like I can just kind of make these beats a little bit more instrumental. So I love that about the album. But, yeah, I feel like if I'm rating the album I'm going to give it a 7. 7 out of 10 overall Okay, 7 out of 10.
Speaker 2:Some of it could have been repetitive, a little bit repetitive, but these were awesome.
Speaker 1:Performances were pretty solid. What would?
Speaker 2:you say is your least favorite track, least favorite? It's like something in the middle. Uh, I'd say like like running out of running out of time, yeah, it just kind of. It's like all right, it's, it's okay. Yeah, it's still solid okay.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know it's funny okay. So for me I I feel like I gave it. I gave it really the good old college try. It's my first like full length, like in-depth future project in a while, but I gave it a good old college try. I I think I'm giving it a five out of ten.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, so I know I'm probably gonna get a lot of haters for this, but like I like metro boom and I think he's good, but I think in the, I think his beats have so much of a similar sound right now that like I don't I'm not really surprised by a lot of stuff anymore by him and with that said, like this project was cool, but it also didn't. I feel like it didn't go anywhere, it didn't do anything new. They weren't really setting any new like raising the level at all, which I mean you know sometimes it's not a bad thing, depending where you're going for it. That's just how I felt about it. Uh, I think future, I mean like he definitely rapped on some songs, but and I also think I don't know it was also repetitive as fuck.
Speaker 1:Like he said, the same shit, a lot of just over and over again. Uh, I would have to say I really like like magic don juan. Uh, really like we don't trust you. Uh, everyday hustle was cool. I don't know how I feel about fried, though. Like I want to like fried, but I also want to hate it, because it's all about him just getting fried and fucked up and it's like all right, cool, but at the same time I mean homie, this is boring as fuck yeah, yeah, I, I'll be honest, I haven't replayed it as much.
Speaker 2:I played it like that first time it came out, but it kind of went to the back burner. Um, I've maybe listened to like that a couple more times but, yeah, because it just does kind of get. I'm not the biggest. I guess I don't listen to future all that much. Um, I'll listen to like a few songs, some of the hits, but I'm like, uh, okay, it's pretty similar vibe every time you know, yeah, yeah, and I think that's what I'm just like, not about it.
Speaker 1:Like like, at this point, walking away, I don't think I'm gonna come back to the whole album, definitely not the whole album, but I will definitely like, if we don't trust you, I might look for it, but I definitely won't skip it if it comes in rotation other songs, you know, depending how I felt about it. Um, but let's go to the topic of future being an artist versus a rapper, and I kind of feel like, yeah, he, the way, it's just kind of how he portrays himself and how he kind of goes about even making music and things like that I don't know like what are. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like his process and like how he kind of portrays himself, I would say, yeah, he doesn't really want to go. You know, I wouldn't put him in. You know he's a hip-hop artist but he does some R&B. I mean, he spits bars, he sings a little bit melodically. It's like, yeah, when you start doing stuff like that, being versatile, versatile like that, um yeah, it definitely puts you in that artist category like you can kind of do, you know, just have fun.
Speaker 1:You know, does his thing yeah, yeah, and like, which I'm not bad at, but definitely like when I think about things lyrically, I can't ever think of a moment where I went oh my god, future said some shit right there. I like I mean there's probably people out there who could. Because, again, I went oh my god, future said some shit right there. I like I mean there's probably people out there who could. Because, again, I don't listen to future like that, but like I don't know any non-bi, unbiased fan that would be like oh yeah, no, this is it, but again I could be wrong. That's just how I feel about future. But uh, okay, that's.
Speaker 2:That's just hilarious are you looking forward to? I know they're dropping, like a another, like a follow-up to that album. This's just hilarious. Are you looking forward to? I know they're dropping, like a another, like a follow-up to that album, this friday. Um, are you looking forward to that one? Are you gonna listen?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna listen, but I'm not looking forward to it. I'm gonna be honest, I wasn't even looking forward to this.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they're gonna change it up a little bit.
Speaker 1:They they change it up, okay, but oh for sure, for sure I I feel like you had like they're definitely gonna change it up, but I feel like there's some shit you have to do. Like I feel like a future travis scott thing that was like that was gonna get me right. Like, in fact, the 21 is not on, this is we is like all right, yeah, it's gonna be on part two like it's gotta happen. I mean, if the young thug wasn't in prison, he we'd be good too. So, yeah, true I?
Speaker 2:no, I agree. Like where's 21 on this at all? Like I'd love to hear a 21 future metro booming.
Speaker 1:I don't know yeah, it'll, it'll have. I mean, let's have before they're gonna do it for this project, um, but you know it's a good duo. Like I think it's for the average rap listener who really likes the trap vibes, those psychedelic kind of raps. This is a project for you. Like I think this is great. I think this is just like definitely adding into the future's catalog. It's just another good piece for his catalog, right? Like, if you're a fan, you're getting what you want it oh yeah and I agree, you know you're about to go out.
Speaker 2:Got with out with the boys or just go kick it like this is a good tape for that. I just put that on. You're about to go out. Yeah, definitely hear this in the club.
Speaker 1:It's a couple songs yeah and like it's probably a good starter for new people wanting in the future. But if you didn't already like future, you're definitely not gonna probably still like them now. Uh, at least that's for me, true, but agreed um on to our next album, which I'm kind of really excited to talk about. So we have blue lips by tde rapper schoolboy q um, and this is going to be q's, I believe what his fifth studio album and it's been five years since his last one, which was crash talk in 2019, um q originally released a single for this year in 101. Uh, that was the first thing going to come out for this album that he did a bunch of other promotional things. He had just been on, done some features and dropped some singles in between that like soccer dad, but nothing crazy. It came out and then the album release. So what did you? What did you like about the album? What were some of your like favorite tracks?
Speaker 2:yep. So this is. I really like this album. Um kind of been a fan of school boy since at least I think I got into him during oxymoron. Um, when that came out I was really a big fan. I was like I was like tde. That was when tde was, like you know, definitely the one of the heights. You know everybody's on there. So this album I was really looking forward to it. Let's see A few songs that I really liked. Here was definitely Ohio Cooties. Blue Slides was awesome and another one I liked I love the intro and the outro. It's just like a good solid, good solid, you know getting into it and then you're like exiting kind of thing. I love that when albums do that. Yeah, I love, I enjoy the album. What about you?
Speaker 1:I really I really liked it. I thought the album sounded very authentic. I think he had a lot of hand in the production themselves and I really liked it. I thought the album sounded very authentic. I think Q had a lot of hand in the production themselves and I really enjoyed that. I definitely was really excited for that. I've been a schoolboy Q fan. He's actually probably been my favorite person from the TD lineup Waiting for this, especially because I wasn't crazy about Crash Talk when it came out and five years later I was very excited to see what happened.
Speaker 1:I love the intro. I don't think, okay, before I get into it I'll just say all the stuff I really enjoy. I love the intro. I really fuck with Thank God for me. Blue Slides is amazing I love.
Speaker 1:I love movie, even though it's like a minute long. I love movie. I love cooties. I like Ohio, but I think it's Freddie Gibbs' weakest feature feature and that's what I'm not crazy about because they work together well. I love Fox. God damn it. Song featuring Absol. I love First. First goes crazy. Love Back in Love. Lost Times 2 goes crazy, especially the beginning. Saucy Blue the whole bag. Germany 86 was dope. I really like the project. I really like the theme where we get to the things we get to explore. Cute is dealing with, like you know, drug usage and like still having love for the streets but being a father and just kind of moving on and doing shit and the like dealing with, like you know, moving on after the loss of a friend. So it's like a lot of growth and this is like an older queue, like you definitely thinking from where we started. Do you think this is where you would have ended up? Do you think, like, did you expect this?
Speaker 2:uh, honestly, it's like a. It's kind of fresh air from. You know where we started oxymoron, you know very kind of druggy rap, um, talking about where you came from. But he never really got too deep into it, I feel like. But when he got on blue lips, I really felt like he was like getting more into like how it was in the streets and how it is, um, in his life. They're very street centric like his. You know where he's from. Like I felt that throughout the whole album like yeah, especially songs like pop or like pig feet man that I was like wow, this is, this is great.
Speaker 1:Like I'm glad he did this oh, yeah, for sure I really love it because, like you get, uh, we definitely get a really personal look at q in his life. I really love in the like you get. We definitely get a really personal look at Q in his life. I really love in the song like Germany, when he talks about his mom, just you know, serving the military and then they got like sent back home and didn't really get shipped and just kind of how he kind of had to deal with growing up in the streets and everything. Like you really still get that and I love it because it's still refreshing. Like heard it before and we've actually heard that before from him, but it's still really refreshing how much more personal he's kind of getting in with it. Um, I really love blue slides is crazy and such a good like commerce to like mac I, I really fuck with that track. Um, thank god for me. Like I love the beat. I love the uh direction where it goes and, just like I, I just like the vibe that he really gives off in this project.
Speaker 1:Hold on, I just had the whole album list pulled up. I had a couple more favorites. Back in Love was one of my favorite songs. I love the hypeness of it, but I like that this. At first I went through my first playthrough and I was like I like this project but I feel like there's no bangers. And then I was kind of like, well there. And then I was kind of like, well, there are, but they're not like banger bangers and they're not supposed to be like that. And I like that because it's like a more maturity, like feeling to it. I really love the song with Ab-Soul. Song with Ab-Soul. I think they again I think they work well together. I really fuck with it. That was really great. I really love the production on this. Again, like I said, it sounds authentic, it definitely sounds new and it still carries a very good West Coast vibe, but it still again like it feels new. It doesn't feel stale or like anything I've really heard before.
Speaker 2:Agreed, I listened to his. He was on Drink Champs. I don't know if you ever watched that, but um yeah, occasionally him on there he was talking about.
Speaker 2:Basically he saw like he kind of adapted to what the music scene is kind of like, where it's like shorter songs, um, you kind of need an earworm, but you need something to kind of people have short attention spans these days. Um, so that's kind of how he went into this project. He said and I can kind of see that, because songs are, you know, they're when they're done, they're done, um, and there's nothing really too super long, I'd say what. Two minutes 30 seconds is like the most the song is, and then you still get the full effect.
Speaker 1:Um, so I definitely felt that after hearing him talk about it no, and I and I like that direction because stuff, songs like Movie are extremely short. That's like a minute, I believe, or like a minute and 30, probably. But like you know, you get across it. I like the. I loved a lot of the samples. Oh yeah, I think it's at the end of it's, either at the end of Germany or at the end of Lost Times, where it's like these niggas ain't playing and I just the vibe. I love it. I really do. I think, like I would say my least favorite, I don't know, I wasn't crazy about Yearn and maybe because I just don't like when singles drop from album Yearn, I would say it's probably one of my least favorite tracks. Really didn't care for pop too much. Uh, I, yeah, yeah, I kind of think that's it. Like ohio is cool. I'm not crazy about ohio but I'm not, like I don't really like, dislike it yeah, I wish, I wish on that one.
Speaker 2:Uh, as you said about freddie, I don't think it was his best verse. Um, I don't think he got, he didn't. It's like you get to the end of the track you're like all right, where's the versa, like, where's? Is he gonna rap on this? And then he comes in for a little little bit, um, but it doesn't really get a whole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's time yeah, I definitely like some parts. I love it when he's like yeah, turn me up, then bitch, run it up. Then bitch, hella hoes like Rick James. Like I fuck with that like line hella hoes like Rick James. There's one more where he was like if I see academics again, I'm gonna catch another. He's like if I ever see that pussy nigga academics, I'm gonna catch another lawsuit yeah, I see, okay, yeah, like.
Speaker 1:I was like, okay, that's funny, I like that. But I was like again, this is not my like craziest. Uh, fucking freddy. I've definitely heard about it.
Speaker 2:Freddy gives verse oh yeah, feature wise, oh yeah agreed yeah, I love all the cues, especially uh cooties.
Speaker 1:I love just like how it goes, starts off better living, all that the cooties. I love the way he even starts rapping in the beginning of that, like, oh the cooties. They coming to get me running, touched by the unloyal, just how like the. It's kind of like a weird way he's doing it, but I really enjoy it yeah, I love that like I don't know if it's kind of throughout the album.
Speaker 2:Definitely on that song, like you know, being disrespected, like you know someone's trying to get back in your life like, and he's not trying to go in that path still, because you've basically lost, you're not no longer loyal to him. Um, I really felt that throughout the album. And he said something on that one about, like I think on cooties he's like. He said something like mass shootings when will they stop? Like it's all about profit or something. I'm like wow, that's something right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of good moments like that and I think, because you see a lot of the maturity and aging that's happened with Q and then being a parent and everything. Everything's good. Motherfucker's got G-wagons, little G-wagons cheap, everything's good.
Speaker 1:Motherfuckers got g wagons, little g wagons cheap tesla, yeah, yeah, just all that stuff. He's doing great, he's in a great place, all that kind of stuff. At least a better place right than he was before. But I, I mean I liked it like I was really excited to have this. I actually fun fact enjoy that there is no kendrick lamar feature oh same actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, he said in the drink champs out there they're to collab maybe sometime in the future, but I feel like he's just doing his thing now, just kind of who's the future? I haven't really listened to Devin Malick, are you?
Speaker 1:Not for real. That was my first real experience with Devin Malick on Lovebirds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like alright, I think he's done it twice on here.
Speaker 1:It was cool. Yeah, yeah, he's on the chorus and the pre-chorus. Yeah, no, so I definitely would take a look at him, listen to his music a little bit more. So, overall, what would you rate it?
Speaker 2:Let's see Overall. I'd you rate it. Let's see Overall. I'd give this one. I love Q. I'd give it an 8. I'd give it an 8.
Speaker 1:I kind of was in the same boat. I'd give it an 8 out of 10 as well. I think one of my favorite projects up to date I'd honestly say this is probably I almost want to go blank face oxymoron, and then this project, and I'm actually almost tempted to put this over oxymoron yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. I would definitely. Blankface is still, I think that's number one for me. I love that album. Something about it like he was on a different wave there, but yeah he just it was the experimental shit.
Speaker 1:He just there was a lot of experimental sounds and experimental vibes and I fucked with it all it all worked and I all fucking stuck. But I I fucked with it all it all worked and all fucking stuck. But I think I saw an interview I can't remember who he was interviewing with. He told her he was like dog dude, I fucking hate that album. Like he doesn't like any of this shit for real. And I was like bro, that's like my fucking favorite project of yours. How dare you.
Speaker 2:That that's too funny, because he he said that he's like he's like he'll have people that show up to him at like shows or something like oh, I love this album and but he says he's like I hate all I hate. He basically does like I don't like my last works, like certain albums, and he's like people are so upset I'm like, but he's like no, I understand what they're saying but yeah, but like you know, it's his work, I get it, I, I get that.
Speaker 1:I really did not care for crash talk. I think it's like my least favorite. I like setbacks and stuff like well, that way, more a lot of the earlier stuff, but like uh, yeah, I was not into crash talk that much like I liked a lot of tracks off of it, but a lot of it did sound like really redundant and honestly I'd probably go back to just I think like three or four yeah, it's got a couple tracks on there that I liked, but overall it's not.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'm trying to think what I didn't like about it.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was the the beats so I know for a fact, like on 5200, 5200 just sounds like something that got left over from the Black Panther album, cause I remember I remember I said something around this the last time I talked about this on the podcast, but uh, yeah, it just feels like a left over thing from there. Um, the verses were like okay, there was a couple songs that stood out but you could just it was cause it came out later than it was supposed to come out. Max Death kind of delayed that and I think that also played a part into why it maybe didn't hit as well, cause there's some good moments on there, like I fuck with Dangerous with Kid Cudi on it and Kid Cudi's just fucking like in the background humming and doing a little bit like singing. But you know there's good shit.
Speaker 1:21 Savage. On there there's a good song Num Num Juice was crazy. But the album also has a lot of like gangster gangsta on. That is the same as Gangsta Gangsta on Oxymoron, essentially yeah, and I prefer definitely Gangsta off of Oxymoron.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, for real, and that one I like a lot more. It's funny that I'm looking at it now.
Speaker 2:They're both the first song on the album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's exactly why I was like, huh, this start is not that this is not a good start for me. To me, like, this is we're not off to a great start here Because, homie, I feel like I did this. We did this exact same fucking first step like years ago, uh, but yeah, overall I really like the project. There's really not too much that I wasn't crazy about. I mean, what, what do you? Okay, so what would this project need to get for you to give it like a nine or a ten out of ten? I?
Speaker 2:would say maybe the feature I don't know, I like feature sometimes, so I think more longer features. Um, I rico nasty, you know, I've heard some of her verses, she's, she brings that energy, so I think she's, you know, a little bit more, a little bit more of a verse. Same with freddie. I did like the ab soul feature. Yeah, I'd say maybe a little bit longer songs, but I think I just prefer blank face over it with the jazzier vibes. This one had a bit more of the soul samples.
Speaker 1:I do love soul samples had a bit more of the soul samples. I do love soul samples. Um, yeah, I think I was into that. I was into the soul samples, but I definitely agree. I think my biggest thing about what I've given a nine out of ten. I think q's not really doing a lot and new and lyrically, like there were never any parts yet, and I've listened to this project a good amount of times now where I'm really like damn man, that was just bars right there, like that's a bar, like he's rapping and I think he's still doing it well. But I feel like this is like Q's like weakest rap wise, like lyric wise. I feel like I've just there wasn't enough, like meat behind it oh, agreed.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, definitely not as much substance um bar wise, definitely a little bit more introspective on his side, but not as much um introspection in the world yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's the world definitely like a little bit of it was a lot of introspection, both.
Speaker 1:I feel. I just don't know like I I gotta think and we get like, god damn it. What is the last time somebody said some shit? Oh, uh, fuck man, I can't think of anything that's actually like impressive to people that I didn't just think. I personally wasn't just like, oh, that was clever, because, uh, it was fucking action, bronson live. But uh, okay, okay, okay, okay. This is the best example, and this is literally from like last year, though, but Big Sean's verse on Palisades with Larry June, I always thought was really really good okay, okay but I mean there's probably something else I'd have to like fucking think of it.
Speaker 1:I'd have to take a second to think about it. But I guess you kind of said it for future how you feel about him overall. So what do you feel about Q overall as a rapper?
Speaker 2:Oh, I think he's. He's definitely still on the rise. He's going to keep going until you know he's no longer able to rap. I think he's just. I love how he's growing um, and it's kind of cool to like be able to grow up kind of with him in a way, like I feel like I'm maturing as a person, he's maturing as a person, so that's what I you know, I can't ask for much more from artists um is to continually just kind of push the envelope a little bit, um, talk about your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that yeah, I think I think for me, like I really enjoy schoolboy q as an artist, he's my favorite and the td big td lineup when you know, k-dot was a part of that too I always really enjoyed his, uh, his style and just his sound and his voice and all that um. When it comes to rapping, um, I definitely do think I do love to see the growth and maturity with aging that he's gone through. I think Schoolboy Q is going to be one of those rappers for me that I don't think. When I see him on a project I'm like alright, q's not going to disappoint, like he's always going to be able to bring it. He's always going to be, you know, wrapping his ass off to a good degree at some points.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I mean shit. I think it's just gonna be great for q. I think it's just only gonna keep getting better, but I think he will tap out of the game earlier. That he would have to. Like I could see it to a point, and that's also just because I don't know, like it's a long. It I think used to be every four years or two maybe before and uh, between albums, but it's been like five years since we got a project, so you know I couldn't imagine how the length of the next one is.
Speaker 2:I agree, yeah, this one. Yeah, five years for this one, three years between Crash Talk and Blank Face yeah, that's, it's getting a little bit longer. Now I think he's starting to have other obligations between these to like to where he has to kind of balance. He has to balance things a little bit more.
Speaker 1:I feel like yeah, I mean, you know, life is life, life be life yeah so he's gotta definitely do all that, yeah oh always, I'm gonna be fucking ready for more, like I was, like I, I like I don't know if he's gonna do a deluxe version, because everybody, but everybody, their mom, does a deluxe version of a project. But, um, I was gonna say let's, let's dip into this like a little this beef for a second. So, yeah, we got to try a big rap beef and I usually don't like to get into the drama aspects, but I guess this is just something that's just so big. I guess you kind of got to talk about it for a second. But so you know, back to the Future Project for a second.
Speaker 1:Kendrick Lamar dissed Drake and J Cole on the song and basically was like, oh, y'all say big three, something like you say big three or I say fuck the big three, it's just big. Me and j cole responded and dropped the diss track. Uh, he dropped a project with a diss track on it. I didn't listen to it and then, uh, apologized afterwards and not great, yeah. And then a lot I heard the fans are very, very pissed about it. I know a lot of people were making comments and I even saw this as of this morning. That fucking suge knight had something to say and I think the funniest part about that was in the article. It said fans of suge knight. And I went suge knight has fans right, that's waiting they can't wait.
Speaker 1:That's fucking wild, bro. I've never seen like. I know people like super villains and shit, but I didn't know super villains have fans like that good lord I mean, yeah, I mean it reminds me of like anime.
Speaker 2:You know, like there's a good villain in the in an anime or something, and people are like oh I love.
Speaker 1:You know I don't stand with what he stands for, but he sure was badass about it yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know with what he stands for, but he sure was badass about it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, suga was just terrible, but yeah, it was not. I don't really know. I haven't really gotten into this enough to read the responses. I don't know. Toro, have you seen it Like how people are feeling about J Cole apologizing?
Speaker 2:A few things I've seen are some people are like almost like you know, he's a very positive rapper, like he doesn't want to really get into this type of beef, I guess. So they're like apologizing for him. Like you know, this makes sense. You know he wants to take the high road, but on the other side I'm seeing, like you's not, you know you don't have to apologize for, you know, making a diss track. If you meant it and maybe he didn't maybe it wasn't authentic, because he did say, from a few things I've read, is that he felt like he was being pressured by other people to respond to Kendrick's diss track. So that's why he made the seven-minute drill. But I don't know. I feel that though.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's actually what happened is. I feel like he didn't give a fuck. And then motherfuckers kind of were like bro, you should say something, bro, like you should just let this happen, bro. And then he was like he did it. And then it was just like oh, it's like. Then it turned into fucking how, when Booker T said the N-word on TV moment at the end, where he just went oh God, fuck, why did I do this? Like, yeah, what have I done? Yeah, that's what like and I mean I'm not mad at the apology, I mean like that's kind of like that's fucking cool, honestly, like, because it's just like fuck it man, fuck the beef. We don't even need it. You know what he's like, you know what? I didn't even need to say shit, I should just let it happen, keep moving yeah, that's kind of what I got out of it.
Speaker 2:Um, he doesn't, you know, doesn't really want to be into that side of the beef, I guess. But I mean he said what he said. He still said what he said and everybody heard it, so it's like you can apologize, but oh yeah and you know what I also.
Speaker 1:I also wondered just like how, at what point did, like, when it comes to like clearing uh, like somebody's feature verse or anything, at one point was like big sean, because you know, shout out to him on, uh, fucking control. But what point? You just go look at this verse and you go, huh, maybe I shouldn't have this shit on here. But again, you probably spent money for that verse, so never mind, you're gonna let the shit go on there. But I'm just saying, if you're able to proofread those verses unless you were on some already to see some diabolical shit show up, you know he's shitting on you too. I don't know, because uh, yeah, man, that shit was a lot yeah, no control.
Speaker 2:I mean, I would say that I guess that's one of the beginning tracks of this, this. Uh, yeah, like I'm surprised that I think back to that. I'm like how did? How did Big Sean let this get out? How did? He like he's like alright, yeah, let's. Which shows me that he's not afraid to like. You know, let the beef be beef, just challenging bars he said let's do it, let's fucking go.
Speaker 1:I mean because it's boring right now, so I'm not mad at it. That's just really crazy. I mean, we're getting good music, no-transcript, but you know, I kind of like it Shout-outs to the rise in the women department of rappers, because that's been coming up a lot recently. A lot of time, yeah, a lot. And other than that, like fucking, what was it? I think Larry June dropped some project. That was, larry June dropped some project. That was like the last thing I was really excited for. On that, though, it's been kind of slow, sorry to burp off mic, but anyway, I didn't really hear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, man. I just want to say I've been kind of bored with music lately.
Speaker 2:Again, I feel like we're still in a lull agreed, I've kind of been, you know, listening to some different genres. I feel like just kind of listen to other music a little bit on the side. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the last project before, schoolboy Q. I was looking forward to that, just TD.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know, Because we didn't get to. I don't know if we even talked about it on the podcast and I know we weren't supposed to, but I remember West Side Guns and Then you Pray For me was probably the last thing I was excited for. I wasn't happy with it. That's what I'm going to say about it.
Speaker 2:That's how I want to say that. Yeah, I gave it a listen. I definitely liked the Pray for Paris. Oh God, there were two, oh.
Speaker 1:God, I think it's because I wanted shit to be so much like pray for fucking pairs.
Speaker 1:And I because I remember his reasoning was just like he's like yeah, man, I mean I can go over here and do this shit on this, uh, on these boom bad beats, like I've done before. But I'm also a versatile motherfucker. Like I can show you I can rap over anything and you'll love it because you love me. Like I can do it over trap and all that. And I'm like bro, that's great. I know you can't, but tell me this you could have did a trap prod, you could have made a whole other prod with trap beats and you could have just gave us boom, couple other shit. This would have been great. Like, uh, mama's prime time, mama's prime time is stacked with bars oh man, jid conway, oh yeah, and west side like yeah, oh god bro fucking but,
Speaker 2:then, we get like a con we get like fucking Sorry.
Speaker 1:I gotta like look up the whole track list so I can make this comment appropriately, but we get like a bunch of fucking songs in there that I'm just like no, this is not it. This is just not it for the project. Oh yeah, like 1989, I didn't. Costasa, I like was not about in the beginning.
Speaker 2:I don't know, the trap beats just didn't hit for me, okay, okay, yeah I'll be honest, I haven't really gave it a really good listen, so I can't really say too much. But there's.
Speaker 1:There's some moments. Conductor williams is on there. He does this thing. I definitely would recommend it. It was pretty good. I definitely like really fucked with it. Okay, so what was the last thing you listened to before Q's album again?
Speaker 2:Let me see here Before that, I feel like I've been going back to old stuff, honestly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel that that's kind of how some realms I've been dwelling in I don't know but listen like, weirdly enough now that they don't even make music. I don't know how I got into Brockhampton without low-key getting into Brockhampton and I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I just they're cool, I like some of their stuff, but I think it's like the content of the music. That's kind of the repetitive thing and like it because, uh, one of their songs kind of makes fun of that okay, what, uh, what, what have you really been listening to out of their country?
Speaker 1:uh. So I've been listening to like saturation two and three uh, I definitely couldn't tell you full, oh god, whatever the end, like their last two newest albums. I've listened to stuff off of that I also recently just got I don't know. Recently I've been re-amping up on Zach Fox music. Zach Fox music Because I'm waiting for him to drop new shit. And Zach Fox is crazy to me. I fuck with his shit so heavily and it's so hilarious.
Speaker 2:No, he's great. I love him as an artist and a person. It's great.
Speaker 1:How you gonna lie to your pussy. That's egregious. Oh my god, bro, that's a whole thesis. Zach Fox is hilarious. I just imagine if you took that shit seriously you'd be fucking crazy. But he would be having fucking bars. Dude, dude, it is wild right his writing game. Uh, wild yeah yeah, it was super fucking wild, super wild shit.
Speaker 2:Well, man does that stand up and stuff yeah oh yeah, he's got the stand-up and everything going.
Speaker 1:That was like pretty dope. I was thinking like damn, I did see him in concert. I was like fuck, what's the last show that I went to? But the last show I went to see was in paris. I went to see uh, mad lip in paris yo how how was?
Speaker 2:that I saw. I saw a little bit of that that looked oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So he's in some fucking uh sorry my bad yasin bay in paris. Yasin bay's out in fucking paris, france, doing a show, but he's doing mf doom covers and that shit was crazy, bro. Like that shit was crazy. He pretty much rapped everything to the t except for one song. He kept fucking up on it. So he's just like play the song, but that shit was fucking. It was so dope did all caps, did like raid, he did a bunch of shit. He did like old school too, I'm pretty sure like from. I remember I fucking loved it he, he played all the fire.
Speaker 1:Doom shit that was like the ultimate fan concert right there I love that.
Speaker 2:I'm glad he was. You know, pay homage and man. I saw something. I think there's a. You know pay homage and man. I saw something. I think there's a what is it Biography or something coming out about MF doom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that there's a you know a biography for you coming out. I was like well, picking it up, uh, cause I think about that. And speaking of stone throw record even though I know yes it's time, we're ready yeah, they, yeah.
Speaker 1:They just announced the fucking sequel. I even fucking pre-ordered the vinyl because I was like I didn't get the first vinyl, the vinyl for the first album yet. But I was like I fucking love this project to fucking death, like I'm hyped for this new one oh yeah, that's a great.
Speaker 2:That's another great combo. You know we're talking like metro, future, whatever knowledge. Uh, anderson pock another. Oh yeah, yeah duo.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure. Like, oh my god, bro, knowledge is one of my favorite producers, for sure he's in my top 10. And this, yeah, it's an amazing duo. Like, honestly, this is my favorite. Like hip-hop, rap, r&b duo. I don't know what the fuck their music is labeled as, but I fucked with it. I saw that they have thundercat also featured on this project and that is gonna go crazy. Earl sweatshirt is on there and that is gonna be fucking interesting. Oh yeah, I'm yeah, this about to be great. Yeah, this is gonna be fucking interesting. Oh yeah, this is about to be great. Yeah, this is going to be fucking great. But, ladies and gentlemen, we are about to wrap up. I appreciate everybody, as always, for stopping by. Shouts out to all the listeners. Thank you guys. Appreciate you, toro, for coming on the show. Definitely going to have to have you back again. Yeah, man, thanks for having me. Bruce, yeah, appreciate it.